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    Excited by the fact I finally have Karl's vines in the ground. 20022010020.jpg


    So far I have in (hoping to grow) wild plum, blackcurrent, raspberry, tayberry, gooseberry, blueberry and Karl's vines.

    Hoping to put in whitecurrent, strawberry, fig, cranberry & various other things (including parsnip ;-) )

    Any ideas for what to grow please do let me know.
    With Grape flavour comes grape responsibility

  • #2
    So what's the difference between a local authority allotment and a landshare then ???

    Also, the phot shows lots of fencing etc, is that part of the deal so it's all divided up or would someone have put that in ???


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    jtfb
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    • #3
      JTFB.... about 4 years.....
      landshare was a project set up by Hugh Fernley-Muppet on channel 4.

      Whilst with a local council you have to wait for someone to die to get a space (not in all cases, but with most), with a landshare it's generally more secure, more facilites and you can share the costs and up to you and the landowner to arrange.

      The fencing is the next door neighbours, very amenable people.
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      • #4
        last spring we planted victoria plum (pixie root) great tastey crop the same summer/autumn. blueberries, small tastey crop, blackcurrent likewise, cherry settled in but only made two fruit and apricot which produced 1 flower but seems happy enough.

        if you can bear the thought of having blackberries then i would recommend these. we have a wild one that we prune and train. gives lovely berries but is probably trying very hard to take over the garden beneath our feet. you can get less invasive and tastey versions tho. i love a straight blackberry wine, makes something like a robust/big rose rather than a red, but is fruity and easy drinking and ready in a few months (tho better after close to a year). The foraged version is a bit sharper so i dont enjoy it as much. its a personal thing, but if a big rose suits you then i would recommend it. its an easy wine to offer around, not challenging for any taste really, and not too adventurous for the homebrew quaffing initiates. but is still a very enjoyable wine in its own right.
        To most people solutions mean answers. To chemists solutions are things that are mixed up.
        A fine wine is a fine wine, 1st time may be by accident, 2nd time is by design - that's why you keep notes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ukric View Post
          Excited by the fact I finally have Karl's vines in the ground. [ATTACH]2194[/ATTACH]


          So far I have in (hoping to grow) wild plum, blackcurrent, raspberry, tayberry, gooseberry, blueberry and Karl's vines.

          Hoping to put in whitecurrent, strawberry, fig, cranberry & various other things (including parsnip ;-) )

          Any ideas for what to grow please do let me know.
          No ideas at this point in time, but my best wishes for you as well as your crops.

          I salute you. Best wishes from me to you and ... 'top of the morning to you' too.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ms67 View Post
            last spring we planted victoria plum (pixie root) great tastey crop the same summer/autumn. blueberries, small tastey crop, blackcurrent likewise, cherry settled in but only made two fruit and apricot which produced 1 flower but seems happy enough.

            if you can bear the thought of having blackberries then i would recommend these. we have a wild one that we prune and train. gives lovely berries but is probably trying very hard to take over the garden beneath our feet. you can get less invasive and tastey versions tho. i love a straight blackberry wine, makes something like a robust/big rose rather than a red, but is fruity and easy drinking and ready in a few months (tho better after close to a year). The foraged version is a bit sharper so i dont enjoy it as much. its a personal thing, but if a big rose suits you then i would recommend it. its an easy wine to offer around, not challenging for any taste really, and not too adventurous for the homebrew quaffing initiates. but is still a very enjoyable wine in its own right.
            Read the bit about blackberries and was about to jump in and say about some of the cultivated type varieties that you can get (there was one I looked at, that produces a single "vine", like X number of metres, commonly used for cultivation in US), if you check out fruit plant/tree nurseries, etc etc but then I figured that you'd probably already checked them......

            Ah well, never mind eh......

            regards

            jtfb
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            • #7
              aldi has cherry apple pear lum as of sunday 5.99 each or 2 fr £10 2 year old pot grown
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ms67 View Post
                .....if you can bear the thought of having blackberries .............
                Plant them in a big plastic tub - perhaps a broken dustbin, burt with just the top [of the bin] showing. This will contain the roots and you will see them jumping out and can snip them off.
                Gluten free, caffeine free, dairy free, fat free you gotta love this red wine diet!

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                • #9
                  if you are going to buy in and plant trees then i would recommend going to a garden center for them. You'll get really good advice for one thing. Yes you will pay more too. On top of that your chances of getting a diseased tree are practically zero, these places know how to look after plants properly. If you go to a non specialist then you may save a couple of quid but chances are the plants will not have been kept properly dry/moist, warm/cool etc etc. The opportunity for something to go wrong is vastly increased. I'm no expert gardener by a long long shot, so i could be buying into paranoia, but i found the garden center great, helpful, knowledgeable, patient and more than willing to give great advice to suit how you like to garden ... organic/chemicals/companion planting etc etc etc
                  To most people solutions mean answers. To chemists solutions are things that are mixed up.
                  A fine wine is a fine wine, 1st time may be by accident, 2nd time is by design - that's why you keep notes.

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                  • #10
                    Rest of the posts in and weed matting down, also a partial border, if I have enough blocks this will go all the way around.

                    In terms of stuff to go on top of the weed matting, stones, chip bark or cocoa shells?
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                    • #11
                      i use a lot and i mean a LOT of wood chips as they are so cheap to me, find your local tree surgeon bloke and ask him how much for a van load of chippins, I pay £30 for transit van load any time i want roughly just over the ton mark i should think or another rough 3 cubic metres when he is loaded up this i then spread over a cover sheet of some sort, old carpets are ok but can be a nightmare at times, i see you have weed supressant sheeting which is great, you can used stones or gravel but it only realy pays off in a very windy area as the wood stuf (can but never happened to me) be blown about by the wind, dont use cocco shells unless they are free as they are frowned upon by eco warriors and what ever happens try not to buy 25 litre plastic bags from b and q etc as that is very very exspensive to do . to save on money if you have the time is to buy one plant say a black currant and later on in the year take a few cuttings and then plant them on you can do it with most soft fruits but the trees need to be brought in unless you can buy root stocks and can raft the trees together

                      either way you have a very nice patch going on there very well done
                      Wine from grapes is alright, but nothing beats the proper stuff to make wine with.

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                      • #12
                        Stone mulch is the best option......

                        the stones retain heat from the day and release it later....if you can afford the big stones (like tennis ball size) then even better....I have 1/2" gravel on mine, looks good, easy to weed and retains heat
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                        • #13
                          Looking good Bob, lots of growth on them since I saw em. How much gravel do to that sort of area?
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                          • #14
                            depending on your wants a builders tope bag is roughly either one ton or a cubic metre and resells for say £40 with gravel in it if you enquire and as for a crane unload they might be able to drop the bags as close as posible and save a load of barrowing, If you have a big area you could order a lorry load , ask for a 6 wheeler which would deliver approx 7 cubic metres or 11 tons last year i helped someone do there drive way with one lorry load and he paid i think £150 plus vat and a bung for the driver

                            from looking at you great photos try looking at the price of two bags, you could get away with one but only if the ground under the weed sheet is flat. altho an idea could be to have a small hollow between the rows to allow the stone area to build up and the water to drain into and for the heat store to be slightly larger
                            Wine from grapes is alright, but nothing beats the proper stuff to make wine with.

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                            • #15
                              There is about 1.75 tons on there, I ordered 2 tons, the other 0.25 went on the drive to patch bits,........hoping to sort the drive properly before grapefest
                              N.G.W.B.J.
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