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    during a moment of lucidity at GF14, I recall Bobski, Mr G and possibly Pete, discussing corks, the quality thereof etc.

    Specifically, the ones that have small flat disc pieces "bonded" to the end, as if it's "across the grain" (if there can be such a thing with cork).......

    It's looking like I'm gonna have to bottle my 2012 pyment and am checking stuff and mentally working out what I need.

    Enolmatic ? check. Bottles ? check. Sanitiser ? check. Corks ? no, and I don't understand some of the various info about "quality" of those. Other than mention of differing qualities.

    I'm intending on wax seals too, and the actual wax has been ordered.

    So maybe someone has a link to a nice idiot guide to corks that I could read, or could explain what I'm looking for with the quality of cork ?

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    If you tell me your expectations as to longevity I will recommend for you what to buy. How long you plan on aging you wine is the main factor in cork choice.
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    Bang on RJB !! How long do you plan to keep it under cork?

    Some good reading here - http://www.diam-closures.com/Diam-te...or-still-wines download the datasheets.

    I am amazed how expensive quality corks seem to have suddenly become.
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    Well, it's been made 2 year's, so I'm thinking 3 to 5 years.

    I'm going to wax.dip as well.

    Cheers for the link Brian, it'll give me something to read and understand, hopefully........
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbloke View Post
    Well, it's been made 2 year's, so I'm thinking 3 to 5 years.

    I'm going to wax.dip as well.

    Cheers for the link Brian, it'll give me something to read and understand, hopefully........
    A nice website, but nothing to say where to buy/price etc.

    So still rather in the dark about corks (other than them being made of cork and a few details about TCA)........
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    Not used this place for a while, but they do have a good selection to look at and gawp at the prices!

    http://www.brouwland.com/en/our-prod...aps/wine-corks

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    Cheers Rich. Forgot to look at Brouwland. Found a place in Bath called corkstore, who do list different quality levels, but the thieving swine are quoting fantasy postage etc (no way in hell it costs a tenner to send 150 corks)........
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    Longer the cork the longer it will last. In your case I would look at collimated or agglomerated 1 3/4 long These will do the job and be reasonably priced disk corks also would fall into this category but a little more expensive.
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    I have to say I'm not a fan of 100% agglomerated corks. Some of my first bottlings were sealed with these but, over the years, I've found them to be prone to leakage, crumbling, and mold. The type of closure used should be dependent on budget and how long one plans to cellar the wine. For white or fruit wine that I plan to drink within 1-3 years, I use synthetic Nomacorcs. For earlier drinking reds, say 2-5 years, I think the twin disk corks (we call them 1+1s here) are fine. Unlike the 100% agglomerates, the disks, which are made from single pieces of cork provide a protective barrier that slows down the deterioration of the agglomerated center. For long aging reds (10+ years), nothing beats a good quality solid natural cork, 1.75 to 2 inches (45-50 mm) in length. The less porous, the better.
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    Steve I have ask this were you soaking you corks? Soaking corks will break down the glue that holds these corks together leading to exactly the problems you describe.What type of agglomerated corks were you using? There are different qualities in these as with any other corks as well. These days the agglomerated corks are put together after being treated for molds so unless they are soaked molds are a non issue. I have to agree though with the disk corks being a much better closure for a very small price increase.
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