Grapefest 2012

[SiSandrine]

OK thanks Bob and Pete. Tempranillo and Syrah it is then.

[SiSandrine]

Not together.

Obviously ....

[lockwood1956]

When i say I will oak heavily....thats not by Mr sharps standards, he uses 136 litre fermenters for his 5 gal batches so he can fit all the oak in

[lockwood1956]

oooooo

and whilst on the subject


Who is attending friday night curry?

I need to book a table

[goldseal]

....he uses 136 litre fermenters for his 5 gal batches so he can fit all the oak in

Who is attending friday night curry?

Me, of course

[lockwood1956]

I will start a separate thread I think

[DaveH]

So, based on the posts above, should I change my order from Garnacha then? I plumped for them as the WN1 Rose 'Goldseal Syle' that i made from last years 2nd run grapes i feel is very drinkable (will bring a couple bottles up with me for expert analysis & comment!!).

Oh wise yoda's please advise

Oh, and sorry in advance to Brian - i might be changing my order shortly (Hope this is ok *Gulp*)

D

[lockwood1956]

Nothing wrong with Grenache.....


just doesnt fit with what I am after this year, i think its a good blending grape, but as a standalone it hasn't performed as well as other grapes (the Tempranillo is a better grape on its own I think)

hope that helps

[DaveH]

Nothing wrong with Grenache.....


just doesnt fit with what I am after this year, i think its a good blending grape, but as a standalone it hasn't performed as well as other grapes (the Tempranillo is a better grape on its own I think)

hope that helps

It does indeed - thanks Bob! Think i might plump for Tempranillo then.......

[Cellar_Rat]

If I could source some Mouverdre I might have considered it, but the Grenache/Garnacha hasn't been brilliant for use in any great quantities, i did an 80/20 tempranillo grenache blend and it was ok, but not as good as the 100% tempranillo so im not having any grenache this year either. (I am however taking tempranillo that/I think I might oak heavily and age for a long time)

regards
bob

Agreed (sort of)
IMO tempranillo is nice at 100%. Grenache lighter grape similar in many ways to Sangiovese.

[Delmonteman]

OK, I have done my homework and stopped trying to jump in feet first. I have read the virgins guide and the one about stretching the grapes out to second runs... So a couple of questions about the second runs...

I'll have the remains of 5 boxes of grapes to go at for second runs and would like to have a go with the cherry port and the WN1 rose but don't understand about grape quantities for each of those. What sort of grape quantities does each require? I'd like to do 1 gallon port and the rest WN1 and am just trying to plan fermenting capacity... Thanks in advance!!!

[goldseal]

You'll find that the volume of 'spent' skins will vary from grape variety to grape variety. However, I'd probably split it down the middle - ish.

I use a 10 litre bucket for my Black Cherry Port. Make the must up to 1 gallon, then add handfuls of skins until the bucket is full to within a couple of inches of the top. Chuck the rest in a straining bag and place in 5 gals of WN1.

There isn't a lot of science involved in this approach, but it seems to work .

[Cellar_Rat]

You could freeze a little bit of grape must before you start, use that and the skins for the cherry port and the WN1 rose. Just gives them a bit of a lift.

[Delmonteman]

Thanks guys. That information is very much appreciated!

[lockwood1956]

Three days to go!!!