German 'Hock/Liebfrau' Style wine from juices - possible??

[DaveH]

My in-laws like their german style wines (ho hum!!), so i'm after a recipe or a few pointers as to maybe producing a brew that would meet with their approval. Am trying to steer away from a kit if possible, but if i have to, i'm willing to (this once!)

Any help oh enlightened ones???

[Duffbeer]

Not being a big German wine drinker I'm a little stumped, but I recollect German wine tasting at a wine meeting last year am I correct in thinking Hock is a very clean crisp white with a good acid bite ?

[T.T]

That would be my recolection or discription of a hock YES

[Duffbeer]

Hmm then I would suggest.

1 gal

3 1 ltr cartons of 100% white grape juice
2 ltr 100% pressed apple juice (not concentrate)

Then follow Bobs method for the rest which is the wine no 1 in the new tutoials.

http://www.winesathome.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1562

Add all grape juice and 1 ltr of apple.
After initial fierce fermentation top up with apple juice

The difference between the two is the extra grape juice instead of water, which will give the wine more body, but will take longer to be drinkable, I recollect about two months was good but the longer it's kept the better.

[StockeyDAW]

My in-laws like their german style wines (ho hum!!), so i'm after a recipe or a few pointers as to maybe producing a brew that would meet with their approval. Am trying to steer away from a kit if possible, but if i have to, i'm willing to (this once!)

Any help oh enlightened ones???

Below three links for German type wine here in Canada (North America). The Okanagan Valley in British Colombia Canada is doing very well at growing and making wine out of Riesling and Gewurztraminer and blending of these varietals. The State of Oregon in the USA is also trying the Muller-Thurgau - I am not sure if they have had success with this one. Over here the Dr Zen Zen line is very popular. If you can get some of these varietals delivered to you or if you can pick some up then you would certainly be able to make a German Style wine. There are recipes within this form and expertise within this forum that could provide guidance in making these varietals.

There are at least three different Kit providers that could provide a kit that would give you the German wine experience. Cellar Craft, RJ Spagnols and Winexpert. Cheers hope this helps .
DAW

http://www.exploringwine.info/2006/north-american-wine-regions-oregon.php

http://www.stompthemgrapes.com/Selection_International-MULLER_THURGAU_Winexpert.html

http://zenzenwinesusa.com/

[Hippie]

Alot of German whites start out low SG and finish at about 9% abv, then sweetened up with the same juice used to ferment. (suss-reserve method)

[medpretzel]

Eek, just lost my last post.



I have made a franconian-style wine out of Chardonnay and Riesling juice. These wines can be found in bottles as shown above. They are a bit tarter than other wines. I agree with Hippie that you should leave the alc. lower. I am not sure about sweetening with the same juice (only because I have never done it).

I would not use Gewürztraminer juice as a personal preference.

Some interesting substitions might be grapefruit mixed with other "sour" fruits, such as granny smith apples or maybe even kiwis. I have never tried this, but I would say that's my instinct on how to make something German-esque!

Hope this helps.

[DaveH]

Thanks everyone for your input. May well try the Duff recipe with one minor addition - i seem to remember that quite a few of the german style wines are quite floral, therefore was thinking of adding some Elderflower Cordial to the Grape/Apple juice.

Thoughts?

[Cariad66]

Try Quince. My quince wine has that perfumed flavour.

Nia x

[Duffbeer]

Thanks everyone for your input. May well try the Duff recipe with one minor addition - i seem to remember that quite a few of the german style wines are quite floral, therefore was thinking of adding some Elderflower Cordial to the Grape/Apple juice.

Thoughts?

That should work just fine, let us know how you get on.

[Aristaeus]

Eek, just lost my last post.



I have made a franconian-style wine out of Chardonnay and Riesling juice. These wines can be found in bottles as shown above. They are a bit tarter than other wines. I agree with Hippie that you should leave the alc. lower. I am not sure about sweetening with the same juice (only because I have never done it).

I would not use Gewürztraminer juice as a personal preference.

Some interesting substitions might be grapefruit mixed with other "sour" fruits, such as granny smith apples or maybe even kiwis. I have never tried this, but I would say that's my instinct on how to make something German-esque!

Hope this helps.

Portuguese Wines Mateus and Laners both Rosa’s; or German Muller-Thurgau with some elderberries, good suspect for a J. Riesling blend too. We made this Muller-Thurgau kit see kit wine reviews. Last but not least is the German Johannisberg Riesling (Spatlese) which has some green grapes for more tartaric...will post that recipe. We also made a Reliance grape (table grape friends grew them here in Webber Falls, OKiehoma) with elderberry, nice twany port in two years. We like the alcohol higher and a little sweet.

Cheers,

Keith & Loretta

[StockeyDAW]

My in-laws like their german style wines (ho hum!!), so i'm after a recipe or a few pointers as to maybe producing a brew that would meet with their approval. Am trying to steer away from a kit if possible, but if i have to, i'm willing to (this once!)

Any help oh enlightened ones???

Just some further points on this German Wine question. I found a few links concerning the types of varietals used in creating these German white wines. I found them quite interesting and thought they may be of some use. Cheers DAW

http://www.wineintro.com/types/lieb.html

http://www.epinions.com/content_1577164932