What Yeast??... SOLOMON GRUNDY GOLD PIESPORTER 30 BOTTLE

[whataboy]

Hii All

I got a bargain ...we'll I think I did at my LHBS... a SOLOMON GRUNDY GOLD PIESPORTER 30 BOTTLE kit for £10

The box was marked date code Jan 2011.. Was told the kit would be fine but the only thing would be the yeast needs to be replaced as that would be out of date!

questions are:....

1. Do you think this kit will be ok & the yeast is all I need to replace
2. I have Young's Wine Yeast Super Compound @ home can I just use this inplace?


Any help much appreciated

Whataboy

[spritzer]

I have got similar bargains in my local HBS on numerous occasions.
I bought a sachet of appropriate Gervin yeast, and all was well

[goldseal]

I'd probably try a Lalvin 71B-1122 (the same as Gervin D).

[whataboy]

Thanks guys..

For educational purposes what would the difference be using the lalvin / Gervin as apposed to the youngs wine yeast that i have? taste? fermentation time?.etc

Cheers
Whataboy

[goldseal]

Both of the above.

Generally, replacing the yeast in a budget or mid-range kit will improve the quality of the finished product. You may find that fermentation takes a little longer if you are replacing one of those turbo-nutter-yeast concoctions - remember to use any times given in the instructions as a guide. Your hydrometer is your friend

[whataboy]

Thanks Goldseal

Going to order the lalvin 71B-1122 now, my LHBS does not stock lalvin so I'll check fleebay.

Can you buy the lalvin in a bigger tub or is it just 5g sachets?

Cheers
Whataboy

[goldseal]

Just 5g sachets - one sachet is sufficient for your kit.

[lockwood1956]

You might want to try the yeast that came with the kit....

make up a yeast starter, if it fires up ok, you may be ok. Yeast tends to survive long past the date on the packet....

Youngs super yeast compound is the work of Satan

regards
bob

[spritzer]

Thanks Goldseal

Going to order the lalvin 71B-1122 now, my LHBS does not stock lalvin so I'll check fleebay.

Can you buy the lalvin in a bigger tub or is it just 5g sachets?

Cheers
Whataboy

Is your HBS the one on Dumbarton Rd ?
She only stocks Gervin ... thats why I only ever get that one

[cpfan]

So the date codes on these kits are an expiry date? The brands available in Canada (Winexpert, Vineco, Spagnols) have a manufacturing date.

Do the packets of yeast also have an expiry date? (Lalvin yeast has an expiry date on the package.)

Steve

[Cellar_Rat]

We have all sorts of dates. Best before. Use by. Display until.
I ignore them all. Taste and sniff works for me everytime.

[goldseal]

Going to order the lalvin 71B-1122 now, my LHBS does not stock lalvin so I'll check fleebay.

If your HBS stocks Vintners Harvest yeast, grab an MA33 - we think that is the same yeast as 71B.

[whataboy]

Yeah Spritzer....Dumbarton Rd

Mmmm....how did you know?

I was looking at the Gervin Gv9,Gv3 or Gv11?

I used a Gv3 in the newbies wine #1 and also used the youngs super in another batch & I could taste a big difference between the two the GV3 took much longer & nicer tasting, but using the youngs super seemed to have/leave a strange sensation in my throat like a slight burn or acidic thing going on (but I didn't know at the time that could be due to the yeast)!

excuse my newbie description but I am only at the start of my Connoisseur career......Dose that sound about right? (laughing at myself)

Whataboy

[spritzer]

Yeah Spritzer....Dumbarton Rd

Mmmm....how did you know?

I was looking at the Gervin Gv9,Gv3 or Gv11?

I used a Gv3 in the newbies wine #1 and also used the youngs super in another batch & I could taste a big difference between the two the GV3 took much longer & nicer tasting, but using the youngs super seemed to have/leave a strange sensation in my throat like a slight burn or acidic thing going on (but I didn't know at the time that could be due to the yeast)!

excuse my newbie description but I am only at the start of my Connoisseur career......Dose that sound about right? (laughing at myself)

Whataboy

The one on Dumbarton Rd, is the only one that I know of in Glasgow
And is my local HBS

I use the Gervin yeasts.
I did have a tub of Youngs yeast years ago, that I used in emergency's... but I think I ended up throwing it out.
As Bob (Lockwood) says.... try and hydrate the one with the kit, if it works then it will find. If it doesnt foam up, then use one of your Gervin yeasts (green label #1, I think is what I would use.)