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  • Know your Elders?

    Does anyone know which elderberries from the list below are good for wine making?


    Elderberries
    In addition to a few ornamental cultivars, we are offering a selection of European and
    American elder cultivars which have been selected for their good fruiting ability and fruit size
    and quality. If flowers are the crop, then they (of course) produce extra large crops of flowers
    too. European elders come from Denmark, Norway, Eastern Europe and England and are
    grown commercially in several countries. Plants are supplied as bare-rooted, 20-50 cm plants,
    price £8.00 each.

    Bradet Eastern European cultivar with large fruits and high yields.

    Cae Rhos lligwy Fruits are large, green, with a gooseberry flavour. Tree has grey bark.

    Donau Heavily fruiting Austrian selection, used in commercial orchards.

    Godshill Found on the Isle of Wight, has larger fruits than normal

    Haschberg Heavily fruiting Austrian selection, used in commercial orchards.

    Ina Eastern European cultivar with medium-large fruits; very high yields

    Sambu Danish cultivar with medium sized fruits and clusters; good yields

    Samdal Danish cultivar with large fruits and clusters; very high yields

    Samidan Danish cultivar with large fruits in very large clusters; very high yields. Compact shrub.

    Sampo Danish cultivar with very large fruits in large clusters, good flavour; very high yields

    Samyl Danish cultivar with large fruits and clusters; very high yields

    Urban Lace Unusual variety with finely cut leaves.

    Viridis The fruits are average in size, but being green means birds don’t take them as quickly!
    Abervin - mouth of the river wine!

  • #2
    You would be best advised to stick to UK varietals, they grow better here.some varietals have higher levels of Sambunigrin (sp) which can be slightly toxic (not fatal) but this can be removed by boiling or by steam juicing.

    Take cuttings from wild elders that give good flowers and berries (they are free)

    regards
    Bob
    N.G.W.B.J.
    Member of 5 Towns Wine and Beer Makers Society (Yorkshire's newest)
    Wine, mead and beer maker

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    • #3
      winemaking with Elderberries (T. Edwin Belt)



      has a ton of info about various varietals, however I cannot find my copy

      I have lent it to someone but cannot remember who

      Anyone?
      N.G.W.B.J.
      Member of 5 Towns Wine and Beer Makers Society (Yorkshire's newest)
      Wine, mead and beer maker

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      • #4
        See here




        look at the final pages of the PDF for varietal info
        N.G.W.B.J.
        Member of 5 Towns Wine and Beer Makers Society (Yorkshire's newest)
        Wine, mead and beer maker

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lockwood1956 View Post
          winemaking with Elderberries (T. Edwin Belt)

          however I cannot find my copy

          I have lent it to someone but cannot remember who

          Anyone?
          I have the book already (not yours unless someone sold it on amazon!)

          However it doesn't mention any of the varietals I have found a supply off, from my research tonight I've found that all the danish Samxxx ones were bred in the late 80s for better juice yield, that must be a good start. I might take a chance on a couple of them and take some cuttings in spring from the trusted garden tree.
          Abervin - mouth of the river wine!

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