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Vernon started life in Cleveland Ohio, he now lives in a vine pot in my garden, having travelled across the Atlantic
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Cute little guy.
Concord? Catawba?Steve
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Nevermind. Just saw a thread elsewhere.
Catawba.
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Is that legal ?
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I would think so. After all, he's living in a pot, not smoking it.Originally posted by Hippie View Post
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Rofl :dLet's party
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Catawba!!!!
And, I carried him with tlc to the UK in my hand luggage, which was looked through 3 times before I got there.
He's soooooo happy in the UK, for he knows, he's "home."
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Hum? exactly what I thought!Originally posted by Hippie View PostIs that legal ?
Not sure that I'd admit doing that. I know that there's little or no problems moving "agricultural materials" within the EU, but the rules are rather different for intercontinental movements i.e. fungi, plant virii, etc etc.Originally posted by Danina View PostCatawba!!!!
And, I carried him with tlc to the UK in my hand luggage, which was looked through 3 times before I got there.
He's soooooo happy in the UK, for he knows, he's "home."
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I'm sure it's OK with the appropriate licensing, but I'm thinking along the lines of "after the correct testing/screening" for potential "nasties".
You only have to note how obsessed "they" are with moving things into the US or Australia to see where I'm going with this.
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p.s. Oh and with any luck, Vernon V. Vine should be nice and happy once he (?) has had a season or two in the ground. Are these ones very temperature sensitive ? or does Bob chuck it inside/under glass during the cold seasons (down south is best - Yorkshire gets overly wet/cold for my liking 
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OMG !!! All kinds of nasty microorganisms could have made their way over to UK from the states. This could be the beginning of a major agricultural disaster !!!
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haha
All vines in ?Europe are on American rootstock, so there aren't any "issues" that I'm aware of
here comes the geekyness:
In 1855 all of the vines in Europe were being attacked by Phyloxera, an aphid like creature that eats the roots and kills the vine, native American vines are resistant to Phyloxera, so European vines were grafted onto this rootstock, and so to this day the practise remains the same.
On a further note of Interest......
The conquistadors took vines to South America when they sailed there, and the Phyloxera louse is not prevalent in Argentina and Chile, so wines from these regions are grown on vines that are original European stock....maybe thats why wines from these regions are sooooooo yummy
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IQA! but that seems to be exactly the view taken by the "authorities" like the USDA etcOriginally posted by Hippie View PostOMG !!! All kinds of nasty microorganisms could have made their way over to UK from the states. This could be the beginning of a major agricultural disaster !!!
Yup, I'd read about that as well, though I'm not convinced about South American wines being sooooooooo yummy. Good, yes, but I've not yet found any (tried mainly Chilean ones) that are completely to my taste (ditto Australian ones - though there's been a few from Penfolds that come damned close).Originally posted by lockwood1956 View Posthaha
All vines in ?Europe are on American rootstock, so there aren't any "issues" that I'm aware of
here comes the geekyness:
In 1855 all of the vines in Europe were being attacked by Phyloxera, an aphid like creature that eats the roots and kills the vine, native American vines are resistant to Phyloxera, so European vines were grafted onto this rootstock, and so to this day the practise remains the same.
On a further note of Interest......
The conquistadors took vines to South America when they sailed there, and the Phyloxera louse is not prevalent in Argentina and Chile, so wines from these regions are grown on vines that are original European stock....maybe thats why wines from these regions are sooooooo yummy
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Bob
Perhaps you could explain what's special about Mr V.V. Vine Bob?
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He belonged to Martina, he is a Catawba, and she passed him along to me for safe keeping, as she has moved to Germany
The Australian reds are made "fruity" by the lowering of the PH before fermentation begins, the PH is then re-adjusted by acid reduction methods after ferment, either cold stabilisation, or chemical means, or both.
Try An Argentinian Malbec, from the mednoza area, I just think they are yummy, also Cab Sauv seems to do well in Chile
http://www.tesco.com/winestore/contr...tina&R=3734026Last edited by lockwood1956; 04-05-2008, 11:24 AM.N.G.W.B.J.
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Catawba should do just fine over there. They're in the v. labrusca family, which includes Concord and Niagara grapes. All are relatively cold hardy varieties.
As for Vernon being a carrier of unwanted organisms, well, our two countries have traded enough flora and fauna back and forth over the last five centuries, that it's unlikely Vernon has anything new to offer.
By the way, if I haven't done so before, I'd like to thank the Europeans for those dandelions that seem to be quickly spreading across my yard this weekend.
Steve
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Well when he is a big boy, I intend to take cuttings and graft my vines onto Catawba rootstock (more geekyness)N.G.W.B.J.
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