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    Me local Woolworths are selling Grape plants for only a few pounds, question is, if i were able to get fruit from these plants could i make my own grape concentrate. I understand that the plants will not be up to the standard to make wine out of. Since my local HBS aint so local i have to find ways to improvise, does anybody think this is possible?
    Last edited by Axl; 17-04-2007, 10:14 AM. Reason: Cos i'm still thick


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  • #2
    Originally posted by Axl View Post
    I understand that the plants will not be up to the standard to make wine out of.
    Why not?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Axl View Post
      if i were able to get fruit from these plants could i make my own grape concentrate. I understand that the plants will not be up to the standard to make wine out of.
      You should get your own grape juice ( not concentrate!) after 3 years growth and training. The wine produced from it should be perfectly drinkable. Perhaps a little high in acid, depending on where you are, but that can be dealt with. The Betty Sampson book has a good section on growing and making wines from grapes.
      http://www.lombardwines.co.uk

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      • #4
        You will find everything you need to know about growing grapes

        HERE

        http://www.grapegrowersolutions.com/ Grape growing guide (http://winesathome.co.uk/downloads/growinggrapes.pdf) Lom Rombough's site (http://www.bunchgrapes.com) The Grape growers guide Contents (http://winesathome.co.uk/downloads/growers-guide/contents.pdf) Chapters 1-5 (http://winesathome.co.uk/downloads/growers
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        • #5
          Also, you can buy really good quality (wine making) grape plants for about £5 a plant

          Est 1992, virus tested grafted and bare root grape vines, The Vine House UK Ltd is a specialist supplier of top quality vines to vineyards and growers. We are suppliers to some of the most respected and established UK Vineyards, and national chain Garden Centres.


          speak to Stuart, he's a great guy (you have to buy 25 though, but they come in at around £2 each if you do)

          I am ordering more plants this year, so maybe you want to tag onto my order, do you have a greenhouse? if so...I will (hopefully) have some cabernet cuttings that will have rooted soon.
          Last edited by lockwood1956; 17-04-2007, 09:49 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by shirlthegirl43 View Post
            Why not?
            Hello shirlthegirl43, I'm guessing the vines may not be of the kind of quality for making a good grape wine, for sure though i could make wine from it.

            Originally posted by lockwood1956 View Post
            Also, you can buy really good quality (wine making) grape plants for about £5 a plant

            Est 1992, virus tested grafted and bare root grape vines, The Vine House UK Ltd is a specialist supplier of top quality vines to vineyards and growers. We are suppliers to some of the most respected and established UK Vineyards, and national chain Garden Centres.


            speak to Stuart, he's a great guy (you have to buy 25 though, but they come in at around £2 each if you do)

            I am ordering more plants this year, so maybe you want to tag onto my order, do you have a greenhouse? if so...I will (hopefully) have some cabernet cuttings that will have rooted soon.
            Bob, unfortunately i don't have a greenhouse, i was hoping that by some small chance i could get them to grow outdoors, but i guess in this country the weather may let me down?

            The more worrying factor is i'm absolutely useless as a gardener!!


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            • #7
              I have grape vines growing outdoors in the garden. They are British hardy varieties I suppose - just look at the plant label and see if it says it has to be planted indoors.

              I bought the vines on the spur of the moment from Woolies last year - they were reduced to 50p each or something. They didn't do a lot last year but have nice healthy buds on them now. They are growing in large planters at the moment as I don't have a space for them to be permanently planted into yet.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Axl View Post
                Bob, unfortunately i don't have a greenhouse, i was hoping that by some small chance i could get them to grow outdoors, but i guess in this country the weather may let me down?

                The more worrying factor is i'm absolutely useless as a gardener!!
                Nope ...you can grow good quality vines outdoors in the UK. I have 75 vines planted outdoors and will have a crop this year so we will see how good they are. I am growing reichensteiner grapes and rondo...Halfpenny vineyards in the midlands are growing ansd making wine fromn reichensteiner, its good.

                if i remember rightly http://www.halfpennyvineyard.co.uk
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                • #9
                  1st link didn't work...this one does




                  and dont worry you dont need to be a good gardener, you need to learn the proper pruning and training regime is all ...the grapes know how to do the rest

                  regards
                  Bob
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                  • #10
                    Thanks bob,

                    Halfpenny green is just down the road from me, about 15/20 mins, i must visit again some time

                    Your knowledge of all things wine escapes me.


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                    • #11
                      What can I say?



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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shirlthegirl43 View Post
                            I have grape vines growing outdoors in the garden. They are British hardy varieties I suppose - just look at the plant label and see if it says it has to be planted indoors.

                            I bought the vines on the spur of the moment from Woolies last year - they were reduced to 50p each or something. They didn't do a lot last year but have nice healthy buds on them now. They are growing in large planters at the moment as I don't have a space for them to be permanently planted into yet.

                            I'm going to Halfpenny green sometime soon, see if i can pick up some vines.

                            Bob's idea, local grown vines, if they let me have some they might just grow in axl's garden.


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